Patent application or Patent or Bogus?

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timvs
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Patent application or Patent or Bogus?

Post by timvs » Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:00 pm

Good Day
I have in my possession 2 high end home maker HDPE wine making vessels and am
trying to find owner or manufacturer. The only marking on these vessels is the following
stamped on the underside of the lid ...BREVITTO 5157-A\86. The syntax does not fit
any search logarithm perhaps because it is bogus. Do not know how they got into Canada
without some MFG disclosure on the items in question. Anyone that maybe able to shed
light on the interpretation of the stamp would be greatly appreciated. I have exhausted
any Italian search possibilities I can think of to no avail

Thank you

Tim Smith

Canada


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Re: Patent application or Patent or Bogus?

Post by Patent Information Marketing » Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:17 pm

Could it be this patent: IT1191407B (application number: 5157 A/86)?

To find this document, I proceeded as follows: Given the word "BREVETTO, I suspected that the first filing was Italian => country code IT. As it is possible to truncate the numbers in Espacenet, I ran the following search in Smart search: IT5157* AND wine*.

Kind regards,

Andrée
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Re: Patent application or Patent or Bogus?

Post by Patent Information Marketing » Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:30 pm

It is also possible to run the following search: 5157* and wine*. In this case, 11 results (patent families) were retrieved. Espacenet always groups the result list by simple patent families, which means that it only displays one patent representative per family, i.e. the one that meets the best the search criteria. When performing this wider search, Espacenet displayed FR2597447A1 as patent representative of the family instead of the IT document.


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Re: Patent application or Patent or Bogus?

Post by timvs » Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:00 pm

Thks very much Andree. I found the link to the vessels in my possession.
The inventor was Fantoni Silvano and the Applicant was
Cieffe 83 SRL (IT). Searching on both inventor and
applicant are dead ends. Company no longer operating
and inventor may be not also. Thks again.

Tim
BC, Canada


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Re: Patent application or Patent or Bogus?

Post by Patent Information Marketing » Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:03 pm

You are welcome!

Kind regards,

Andrée


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